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US Navy cost to fire different weapons

Main Post: US Navy cost to fire different weapons

Top Comment: "It cost 400,000 dollar to fire this weapon, for 12 seconds"

Forum: r/Damnthatsinteresting

Suspected Iranian Weapons Seized by U.S. Navy May Go to Ukraine

Main Post: Suspected Iranian Weapons Seized by U.S. Navy May Go to Ukraine

Top Comment:

Please do it.

Forum: r/ukraine

Weapons shortages mean UK’s lead aircraft carrier HMS Queen Elizabeth isn’t fully armed, says ex-Navy chief

Main Post: Weapons shortages mean UK’s lead aircraft carrier HMS Queen Elizabeth isn’t fully armed, says ex-Navy chief

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The QE class do not carry Goalkeeper CIWS, they have 20mm Phalanx instead. It would be better if they had the RIM-116 Rolling Airframe Missile launchers as carried by US carriers as they are better point defence weapons against missile attack. They also fit in the same mounts as the Phalanx and can be independent of other ship's systems. Probably another cost based decision.

The government seem to love the idea of 'fitted for but not with', which means they can claim a capability that doesn't actually exist. As Ukraine has shown, relying on the ability to rapidly add capability is problematic because you can't guarantee the availability of what you need, when you need it.

Buying one or two ships worth of SAMs to equip the type 45s and shuttling them between ships as they deploy and return is all very well when they most you are doing is chasing drug smugglers and sailing about flag waving, but it is not credible to go to war with that level of stocks. A Type 45 would probably expend its entire magazine defending against a single missile strike - a modernised Russian Oscar class SSGN can carry 72 P-800 missiles. A Chinese Type 55 destroyer has over 100 VLS tubes which can carry anti-shipping missiles.

The Royal Navy has been run on a 'make do' footing since the end of the cold war, with minimal strike capability. There are signs that might be changing though, with the new SSNs going to have vertical launch tubes and the new frigates also having strike length VLS, but they are quite a while from being in service. They also need to have a depth of supply for munitions that allows sustained operations, otherwise they might as well not be there at all.

Another lesson from Ukraine - munitions expenditure is far higher than was apparently anticipated. I'm not sure why it seems to have come as a surprise, because I'm pretty sure Tom Clancy was writing about that in his books over 30 years ago. Hopefully politicians take notice and do something about it. There is an adage that you go to war with what you have, not what you would like to have, so it's pure folly to buy all these expensive weapons platforms and then not have the appropriate stocks to use them properly when needed.

Forum: r/ukpolitics

Can't hide navy revolver in weapon locker?

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Bought a weapon locker just so that i wouldn't have to cycle through tens of weapons in order to get to the one that i actually uses, and i can't even hide some of the weapons

Top Comment:

I’ve found it tends to resort to the full load out after a few days anyway. Waste of money imo.

Forum: r/gtaonline

Are there any countries that can challenge US Naval power off their respective shores?

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The fact that the USN routinely deploys aircraft carriers to the Persian gulf demonstrates America’s naval dominance. That got me thinking, are there any countries that could challenge an American naval show of force off their shores? China is the first and pretty much the only country that comes to mind. Seeing how the Russians have fared against Ukraine pretty much strikes them off the list. And then there are countries like India and Turkey, whose maritime prowess is relatively unknown.

What do you guys think?

Top Comment: This is a hard question because I imagine if you have a war near anyone’s shores you’d be fighting their navy and whatever missile/drones they were shooting at you via mainland. Chinas (navy) for example wouldn’t even have to win, as they could just try to wear the USA down with hits from their navy/mainland until the USA decided it was no longer worth it. Middle of the ocean though? There is no peer to the USA yet.

Forum: r/geopolitics

Military

Main Post: Military

Forum: r/Military